An Italian structure called the Patto Trasversale per la Scienza, which brings together many social, political, medical, pharmaceutical entities around the world to promote the State of Italy, and to "protect the rights" of every Italian, has reported several Italian doctors and scientists to the prosecutor's office. Among them on Dr. Stefano Montanar a respected nanopathologist.
Some time ago I received an interview with Dr. Montanari. Of course it concerned the situation in Italy and the epidemic itself. I held off from publishing it, waiting first of all for a reliable translation. Yesterday I received it, and with it the information that one of the most respected Italian scientists and two other doctors have been reported to the prosecutor's office. In addition, the Guardia di Finanza, assisted by the police, entered the apartment and the scientific laboratory of the doctor and his partner and Dr Antonietta Gatti. They were searched and the following were confiscated: computers in their possession and documents, data, research results. Currently, Doctors Gatti and Montanari are forced to suspend all activities related to their research, including conferences, consultations and analyses on a specified date.
What is it about? In the case of Dr. Montanari, it is about this interview! Probably also to ensure that it never occurs to a doctor to question the "only truth" again.
The report translates as follows:
"In addition to creating confusion and misinformation among citizens, Dr.Montanari's voice, going in the opposite direction of that indicated by national and international health institutions, may lead to illegal and dangerous behavior by citizens, urging them to leave their homes or disregard the pandemic. Montanari's claims are even more serious because he is a recognized authority in pharmacology and scientific popularization".
What is there in this interview ?
Read it, and the Italian case will become clear to you. Interview very long, I post excerpts and the whole thing in Italian in the comments. Read from A-Z...
Quotes:
+ Good to see you Dr. Montanari.
- Good morning, everyone. Good morning, everyone.
+ Regarding the virus, I would like your opinion.
+ It is difficult to unequivocally comment on what is taking place today. Not only am I not, a psychologist or sociology expert, but most importantly I am not a judge, and it is the judiciary that should be investigating many SARS-CoV-2 cases today....
I am a nanopathologist. My knowledge is based on physics, chemistry, physiology, immunology, pharmacology, biology... In addition, almost half a century of personal research and collaboration with scientific institutions around the world. It has nothing to do with what is happening today. What is fashionable. Such certainly will not be - fashionable.
For my part, I can say that it involves a flu-like virus that is not clear when it originated and not clear where it originated. There are various ideas, partial, uncontrolled, more or less crazy. It is said to have originated in China, but later it is said not to have originated in China. There are those who say it was created by bats, others say it was created in a laboratory by accident or on purpose to eliminate the population. In fact, someone definitely knows where it came from, but not many people have this knowledge.
One thing is for sure, the virus is something new. It belongs to the group of coronaviruses. There are a huge number of them - lots of them. A normal cold is very often caused by a coronavirus. These are not usually viruses that can cause death, most often they are very harmless. This one, on the other hand, is extremely contagious. This means that it is able to enter the body of other people with great ease. But it remains completely harmless, leaving no trace/symptom, any abnormality or disease in most people. I am convinced that if we started looking for the virus in sixty million Italians, we would certainly find it in thirty million, and maybe even in more people. He is out there doing himself no harm, just like a huge number of other viruses. The mortality rate for this virus is negligible, perhaps even non-existent.
What else is a serious illness together with a virus. One or another - any! Coronavirus, rotavirus, or any other.... Last night we heard the head of an Italian hospital say that it is the same with or without the disease. In that case, this gentleman should go back to school, but not to college, but even earlier, probably to elementary school. There is a complete lack of logic here. To die because of a disease, and I say this also for the benefit of this ordinator, so to die because of a disease means that this disease is the cause of death - I repeat the cause. For example, a heart attack,m, it is the cause of death. If the lady falls under the train, that accident is the cause of death. If you fall under a train and you also have a cold, the cold is not the cause of death - the accident is the cause, and you had a cold. I am convinced that if we carried out a check on all the dead Italians, and we have six hundred and fifty thousand physiological deaths in Italy each year, then probably half, or even many more of them, because they are elderly people, will have coronavirus in their bodies. Today we have something pumped up in front of us, and maybe even much, much more, much more... much more...
+ So I would like to present to you the latest data I see from ANSA - Italy has overtaken even China in the number of deaths. You refer to this virus as "harmless".
- This is a virus, just like many other viruses. It's certainly not a normal flu, it's a specific "flu" that hits the lungs. There are different types of flu - some hit the intestines and then we have diarrhea. We have a flu that hits the stomach so it causes vomiting. There are flues that can even hit the nervous system causing headaches. This virus hits the lungs, but any of these infections are dangerous for an elderly or sick person. Hitting the lungs means that in some cases, mostly in older people, and if you check, most of the deaths are just in people around 80 years old and over 80 years old, and in the case of Italians, on average they are just around 80 years old. This is the way it has been for years on every statistical day of the year and it is not changing. In this case, such people require breathing assistance - ventilators.
This is not unusual. Elderly people who have the stomach flu will also need hospitalization. Irrigation, IVs, etc. A ventilator is normal hospital equipment. I have forty years of experience when it comes to operating rooms. It is absolutely normal hospital equipment. The fact that we don't have them is another matter, or that we don't have enough of them. I say this to respond to this emergency situation as it has been called. The important fact is that we, for 10 years, have destroyed our health care system.
We have been closing hospital departments and even small hospitals. Equipment is purchased in small quantities and badly. The prices in Italy are very high, the prices of equipment and maybe even everything needed for a hospital are more expensive in Italy compared to other countries. Why? Because Italy has a corruption-capitalist system. So if something costs 10 in a free market, it costs 20 in Italy. The little money we have is used in the wrong way. So it's very easy to find yourself in front of a crisis situation, we can call it what we want. We are not prepared because our rulers for at least 10 years are not prepared themselves. When I hear that the Italian health care system is the best in the world, my hands fall down and maybe not only my hands.
+ So excuse me, how do you explain these pictures that are circulating with military vehicles transporting coffins and leaving the hospital in Bergamo. So in your opinion these are people who died not because of coronavirus?
- And see, still because of the coronavirus... because of the coronavirus...
I already have some doubts that even those 3 people died because of him.
+ That's also what the Health Institute reported.
- Yes, exactly, that's right, and with regard to the information being given, I'll say this - when I hear a journalist like Mario Giornado saying that we can't give this news because later people won't believe us again. We have to leave this information silenced. Then I ask myself, what kind of journalism do we have here in Italy ? I'm not talking about parochial journalism, I'm talking about a journalist who, deservedly or not, boasts great fame and who says something that goes against the ethics of journalism, against the foundations of journalism. This gentleman is spreading disinformation. This is an embarrassment.
I no longer believe in anything today.
+ And as for those images of hospitals overcrowded and people intubated. How do you explain them? So according to you it does not depend on how powerful the virus is but on what? On the inefficiency of the health service in Italy?
- I think that we are not prepared for a disease that strikes the lungs. I don't know if we are ready for anything. Our politicians have destroyed the health care system in Italy. As for the pictures, today I can show you all the pictures I want. You know very well, because you are a journalist by profession, that I can show you this or that. I can show you the coffins that are coming out, the people who are being intubated, anything I want depending on the need.
It certainly takes place. Certainly people who are intubated need to be intubated and need to have ventilator assistance, but these coffins are part of all the six hundred and fifty thousand deaths that we have in Italy every year. There is no increase in mortality. If you go to any hospital, you will see that every day coffins come out of there, people are intubated.
I, many years ago, refused to work in pediatric oncology precisely because I couldn't stand the sight of the white coffins that passed in front of me all the time. So we are talking about nothing. See, you know very well as a journalist that I can show what I like, just think about how a year ago, two years ago there was talk about two Italians in India and 27 times a day we heard this news. Today it is no longer talked about. Nothing has changed. People have their attention directed in a different direction today because someone wants it that way. Here we are talking about 3 deaths. As far as even 3 deaths from the virus.
+ This pneumonia caused by COVID-19 is different from those that
have we known so far?
- Yes, it is a viral inflammation, but there have been plenty of them in Italy for many months. Already around October, so 5-6 months ago, there were patients with pneumonia very unusual, the cause of which was not known and did not look similar to what we knew. It was not known what to treat them with pharmaceutically and we had to wait until the patients recovered by themselves.
We must remember, contrary to what we are tried to be told, we have a great self defense, much more powerful than a significant amount of medication.
See, just what we have on our skin: bacteria, viruses, fungi, which are needed precisely to fight the bacteria, viruses and pathological fungi, i.e. those that carry the disease. When we wear gloves to avoid catching a coronavirus, we are probably making the biggest mistake of all in terms of our health, because we are not giving our bacteria, viruses and fungi that we have on our skin a chance to interact with these pathogens. With these hands, read gloves, we touch our clothes, cashiers who work in the few stores that are open touch the money and the counter, and use the same gloves over and over again. This is where the viruses come in! Gloves don't allow our protective shield on our skin to react. Gloves are far worse than no gloves. And so we face the advice of imbeciles...perfect imbeciles. Who don't know what it means, who don't know basic biology.
+ So it's like we didn't give the body a chance to produce antibodies to this virus?
- We already have our immune protection. Like all living creatures, we already have it! By wearing gloves, the body cannot defend itself! Similarly, masks! Here we have another madness ahead of us.
+ Why?
-Because, this mask can't stop anything. These are illusions. People think viruses are as big as sewer mice. When someone puts on a mask it's like putting on a fence gate to keep mosquitoes from entering the house. So when someone walks down the street wearing a mask it makes me want to laugh. People should change their masks every 2-3 minutes, maybe even every minute, because they are already full of viruses, but nobody does it.
+ So... Doctor, the most immediate protection is for the lungs. How would a smoker deal with that?
- He can cope very poorly. You see, a smoker like all of us has bronchi, bronchi are tubes that get thinner and thinner and carry air to six hundred million sacs that are called lung envelopes where we exchange oxygen and Co2. Along these tubes we all have a small layer of mucus, very thin. This mucus is essential because it blocks dust, viruses, bacteria. Later, there are cilia on the bronchial tubes, which are a kind of whip and throw out the dust, viruses, bacteria and fungi. The smoker has a much thicker layer of mucus and the cilia can't manage to expel what's caught in that mucus and we have, at least, a smoker's cough. But they are also blocked, paralyzed by smoking, and so what happens? What happens is that these invaders, viruses, bacteria go down into the alveoli and they don't come out anymore. So the smoker gets bacteria, viruses and fungi in much greater numbers than the non-smoker. So that's also the case here - with this virus.
+ Thank you, it is clear, very clear. Earlier we talked in an interview with Dr. Loretta Bolgan regarding testing. I would like to know from you what you think about this. Also the governor of the Veneto region Zaia said that we will test everyone.
~ Tests.... First of all, you need equipment to do it, which you don't have, which is practically nowhere to be found. And you need the right skills. And then there is a little bit of a problem anyway, because a little bit more than 80% positive results are false positives. So it's a big risk. We run the risk of telling the person that the result is positive when it's not positive at all. But here's something else. Most people who actually test positive have no symptoms. As is the case with a significant number of viruses that exist in the world.
So we are isolating people who are quite healthy, and I stress healthy, thereby turning them into sick people. And this is very serious and dangerous, because it has been known in medicine for many decades that depressed people who are in a bad mood react worse to pathologies, and so they get sick more often. Now take away the ability of these people to go out. Now even take away their ability to walk. In Emiglia-Romagna such an order has already come out - you cannot walk. So you cannot sunbathe. If you don't go out in the sun, you don't properly metabolize vitamin D, which is necessary to protect us. It's essential for our immune system. So we're indoors, in a weak mood, we can't metabolize vitamin D, so we get sicker, much sicker. All these ideas, taken from perfectly incompetent people make it even worse.
+ Triggers this vicious cycle?
~ Yes, people should be told to get out in the yard, in the sun. Take walks. Try to move, eat healthy. And here's something completely different: Stay locked indoors, in the dark with no sunshine under stress. These incompetent people, they don't realize the evil they are doing. Or maybe they do realize it and that's why.... I don't know.
+ Listen, however, you agree that the elderly are the most vulnerable because the weakest. So it's good for them to stay at home in your opinion?
- No! It's good for them to go out. That they should go out and sunbathe. Let them go outside, let them walk, let them keep themselves moving. Because if we lock them in the house, they will die. Do we want to hasten the death of the elderly? Great, let's keep them indoors. Let's keep them out of the fresh air, out of the sun. They need to walk and be in the sun. They need to exercise. All those things that have always been said, today they're being denied for the sake of business, which is an abomination.
+ And compared to SARS, what are the differences?
- It is one of many, many pulmonary viruses. SARS is an atypical virus and gives atypical pneumonia. Let's just say they're more or less very close cousins. They're even almost like brothers. There are not some huge differences. But still, as you saw SARS didn't cause a catastrophe like this one, it didn't cause anything. There are a lot of diseases like that.
Perhaps you remember the swine flu or the bird flu? For the bird flu, we Italians bought 27 million doses of vaccine, we threw away 26 million and 700,000 doses. Well, but we paid for them. We don't have money to buy respirators, but we have money for the vaccine that we throw down the drain.
Unfortunately, you see, when we are governed by incompetent people, I don't want to talk about corruption here, even if I have a certain temptation here, but I won't talk about it. But when we are governed by incompetent people, then like Captain Schettino to the power of the entente - this is how it ends!
+ There are those who believe that this virus is seasonal. In your opinion when will this situation end?
~ Whether it is a seasonal virus I do not know. Like other viruses it is almost certain to be temperature sensitive. Nature is smarter than government and above all it is not corrupt and knows that when we get sick we need to raise our temperature. Because a high temperature, the higher the better, improves our immune defenses and deteriorates the ability of bacteria and viruses to live, if viruses can be called life.
What does the doctor do today? He gives Tachipirin. This is insane! You're taking this defense. We have a madman here. The incompetence of a doctor who gives you Tachipirin when you're 37.8. It's like you have a city with a fortified wall and you tear down that wall to get some air. Pure insanity! So what happens? In the summer, the temperature rises, and it's possible that the virus' vital capacity will then decrease.
Vital capacity as an expression in the case of a virus is wrong, but I used it to let me understand. It is more than likely that this virus will lower its presence over the summer. Either way it is still something completely trivial. Consider that we have 20,000 deaths a year from the flu. And no one talks about it, no one mentions those 20,000 deaths. It does not block the state! On the other hand, we have 49 thousand deaths a year because of an infection caught in the hospital. This is the official data - 49 thousand deaths per year due to hospital infections. There are 130-140 people every day. People die because they were hospitalized because they had surgery in the hospital for an appendectomy, and they die from pneumonia or sepsis.
Nobody is talking about it. We every day have far more deaths from such infections, more than since the beginning of this coronavirus affair, this farce. So we are faced with something absurd, much more than absurd. And it gives a lot of suspicion to something like this.
+ But if this disease is not so severe, why are more and more stringent precautions being added every day? What is the reason that authorities and institutions take such measures?
~ There are several different reasons. The first reason is the most trivial, which may seem almost unrealistic. Please check. In 2017 bonds came out that assumed the possibility of a certain infection, it would happen around 2020-2021 and cause a certain amount of deaths etc. And so whoever made the right bet in that bet wins, but that's a small thing. It's a small thing because we're talking about some hundreds of millions here. The other thing is vaccines. And this is a bigger issue. The regime that got the whole world involved in this will now have to do everything it can to vaccinate them, and worst of all, vaccinate them against a virus that does not give immunity. This is the kind of thing that doesn't fit in heaven or on earth.
If I, 50 years ago, when I was taking an exam in pharmacology, if I had said something like that to my professor, who was one of the greatest pharmacologists in Italy, he would have thrown me out the door, because only someone incompetent can come up with something like that... A vaccine, in relation to a virus that does not give immunity has no possibility of functioning! In a way it is a virus, sort of like the common cold. You cannot get vaccinated against a cold because a cold will not give you immunity. We can catch a cold up to 200 times in one lifetime because it does not give immunity. So to think about a vaccine against this virus is fraudulent on a global scale. There is another reason, but about that later.
+ I understand. So to recap, you can't die from COVID-19 unless you are already chronically ill?
- Of course you can die, but you see, if I push you off the 10th floor of a building, whether you had a cold or arthritis or a virus is irrelevant. I can't tell you that you died from the flu or arthritis or a cold. You died because you fell out of the 10th floor -smile.
If you go to the website of the Institute of Health you will see that all these people had cancer, severe diabetes, overweight, they were all elderly people of 80 years old, this is the norm. In Italy the average mortality rate is 80 years old and those people who die from coronavirus are the ones who die from other diseases every year.
But what are we talking about?
The lady does not think that a person infected with coronavirus will suddenly be cured of cancer, diabetes, or other conditions. That's ridiculous. A person has had cancer, a heart attack, an infection, and dies so much... well, and by the way, he also had a coronavirus. And what... and suddenly he dies because of it? Here we really have a fraud before us. A huge fraud.
+ Boris Johnson - let's move to England in that last question, he wanted to give back the herd immunity issues. What do you think about that?
- Here we are indeed faced with total madness. First, herd immunity is the most brilliant invention of the pharmaceutical industry. Only an imbecile would believe that such a monstrosity as herd immunity exists. It does not exist. It does not exist, I repeat. If you want, we can do a broadcast in which I explain to you why this is a fraud. Herd immunity does not exist. And even if it did. How is society supposed to become immune to something that doesn't have immunity? That's like saying there is herd immunity to the common cold. We really have before us a person who doesn't know what he's talking about. He doesn't know what he's talking about.
+ In closing, I would still like to ask you to comment on the correlation of environmental contamination and virus development, this or other...
- Of course. We've been talking about this for many years. My wife and I have been talking about this for many years. You see, when we have dust, micro and nanoparticles, viruses stick to them. The viruses are much smaller than these particles. And these micro and nanoparticles are the means of transport for these viruses. Just as they transport dioxins, furans, and endless other substances. This is all common knowledge. And now some genius pops up and says maybe this is the case? We've been talking about this for 20 years, but we're still not being listened to.
I think we have touched on all the important aspects about the virus, but we have forgotten one thing.
+ So go ahead.
- It's about the economic aspect. The one that is not part of my remit, but wants to address it. So we're stopping the world today. It seems obvious to me, l this is what is happening. The Italian economy was already in a poor state even without this. All thanks to the incompetence of our authorities. What are we up against? Today, all activity stops and only the stock market and business is left open. The values of everything fall to the floor.... They are losing constantly, falling and falling. What does this mean?
This means that whoever is a multi-billionaire, has billions, dozens or hundreds of them, can buy various entities today for pennies.
When will it appear that we are ending this farce, that everything is over, the topic is closed, and in fact nothing will be finished because this virus will continue and do what it does now, which is nothing. We just have to learn to live with it.... But those people who did this will then turn out to be the masters of the world. Even those who are not multi-billionaires but have some money will buy 3-4 restaurants that had to be closed and the owner had no money to live on, buy 10 stores that had to be closed... all for a pittance!
So whoever was rich will be infinitely more rich. But we will have a whole lot of poor people who will get poorer and poorer.
This is yet another and perhaps the worst of the consequences of this artificially created epidemi....
- Dr. Montanari, thank you so much for this clear message regarding this topic and I hope to see you again here at byoblu, thank you.
- Goodbye- Thank you, goodbye.
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My great-great-grandparents died during the typhus epidemic at the end of the 19th century, whole villages were dying out - interestingly enough I checked the statistics and every year 200 thousand people die of typhus (a disease completely forgotten in Europe) out of 22 million people infected annually in the world - has anyone heard about it? As for the mortality from the new coronavirus, I have seen the procedures adopted by the Polish government and medical-sanitary institutions, which say directly that in the case of death the infectious disease is the superior cause in relation to chronic coexisting diseases, is it right?
The media is really rolling out the topic and fueling a general panic, today I went out on the town to relieve myself and felt like I was in the matrix. Let me give you an example of creating panic, on one of the portals it was written in red and with an exclamation mark about a new complication of coronavirus, that it attacks and damages the brain! but what is strange about that? The seasonal influenza A virus can also attack the brain by way of very rare post-influenza complications, but these are, as in the case of coronavirus, single cases out of hundreds of thousands of people, so it has never been talked about like exotic typhoid. I know an example of a young girl who, after seemingly ordinary flu, landed in the ward and waited for a heart transplant because the viruses damaged her heart muscle (a donor was found, the operation was successful and she happily returned home).
As for the new coronavirus, you could say it's highly contagious, but 80% passes with negligible symptoms, and the more people who have it, there's a chance it will mutate, and as one respected pathologist and virologist said, coronaviruses always mutate to milder forms (I hope they don't lock him up for that heh).
However, in Italy is interesting in that Lombardy is quite specific, very densely populated (10 million people in an area the size of West Pomerania) to the age structure 20% over 70 years old, a lot of 80-year-olds even for European conditions. In Spain, the situation is similar in and around Madrid and Barcelona, while other regions are relatively quiet. In Belgium, however, 98% people live in cities in large concentrations, and it is not a nation of young people either. I think that we will come out of this hmmm... epidemic, and maybe our health service will come out richer in all kinds of equipment, because ventilators from one-name hospitals will then be able to be used in smaller district hospitals. It's worse that we don't receive a gift in the form of some quantum tattoo or other device, because it will be hard, but as John the Evangelist says: "Here the perseverance of the saints, who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus, will be proved".
Very interesting material, thank you...