I once had a conversation with a very enlightened math teacher about faith. She told me that she is Catholic, but she calls herself more of a Christian. I took this as a curiosity and an oddity.
The topic explored below is not new at all. We have taken it up on this blog in comments here, for example:
detectiveprawdy.pl/2016/11/14/on-dal-dary-kazdemu-chrzescijanin/
These are not new issues, but for the parties that are, so to speak, anti-unitarian, that is, that have nothing to do with ecumenism.
There are times when something seems very simple and trivial to us, but as I told my friend about the problem, we both recognized that what is obvious to us on a blog to some group is not obvious to others.
Besides, there is such a thing still as fidelity to the truth and it has cosmic significance. After all, I have truth detective in my blog name. But it's still not so important what I have in my blog name, but what the world and the demons who love lies use.
I am posting below the email I received regarding this issue. The email that inspired me to text:
Everywhere I come across one thing that does not match at all with what the Bible says... All those who declare faith in God and His Son Jesus Christ and His followers call themselves CHRISTIANS which is highly incorrect and has nothing to do with Jesus Christ and His teachings or His Spiritual Church.
Christians were people who accepted the teachings of the apostles and were immersed in water for the remission of sins...in those days there was no such ritual as CHRISTMAS...there was immersion in the name of Christ for the remission of sins...In the Bible there is no word for CHRISTMAS in any language...because this concept was created by the Roman Catholic Church....
In Acts 11:26 regarding the word Christians the word is used:...it is interesting that since the name Christians comes from baptism why when it speaks of "the baptism of Jesus by John in Matthew 3:13 the word is: βαπτισθηναι which means BEING DURED...why then in Acts it does not say that the disciples of Jesus were called DURED but Christians...
The English translation of the Bible gives us the answer because it is closer to the originals...In English the word χριστιανους is translated as Christians which means in Polish Christians but the word baptism in English is baptism...which in Greek is βαπτισθηναι...this is a typical manipulation of the Roman Catholic church because they wanted at all costs to be considered the church of Christ and they had no other way of associating with the community of Jesus because they were and are pagans...so there is no common feature...
What the truth is you can hear and read instead...χριστιανους is CHRISTIANS-that's how it's read and that's how it's pronounced and that's how it's heard in the Greek language...in the same way Christians are CHRISTIANS and that's how it's read and that's how it's heard because in Greek CHRISTUS is χριστου which means in Antioch they were called CHRISTIANS and in English CHRISTUS is Christ which means in English CHRISTIANS are Christians....
χριστου -Christ
χριστιανους-Christian
Christ-Christ
Christians-Christian
not CHRISTIANS because baptism is βαπτισθηναι or baptism...it's plain to see so let's stop calling ourselves Christians which ties us to pagan satanic religions and start calling ourselves from our LORD CHRISTIANS....
I've been wondering lately how you can separate yourself from religions called Christian and this email is the answer.
In fact, if we want to call ourselves Christians by implication we should be called "immersionists" because that means Baptist. A friend of mine said jokingly that the correct name for CHRISTIANS is divers.... 🙂 .
Here, on the other hand, the baptismal-Christianity of the Church of Rome is blurred with the baptismal-Christianity of pseudo-Protestantism because of the lack of immersion of Catholics. They are sprinkled as the Christmas dishes are sprinkled....
It's time to change the nomenclature and use the proper names, unstressed. Same with church vs. ecclesia.
This reader described very well the sense of using these two contradictory words: Christians, Christian.
Indeed, English-speaking countries refer to Christians as christians - christians.
Christian from Christ means not a personal name, but an honorific title, indicating the momentous role of Jesus of Nazareth. Already in the New Testament it has become like his second name: Hebrew משיח) מָשִׁיחַ; Mešiah, Meszjah) gr. Χριστός (Christós) - The anointed one, the anointed one, the Messiah.
Word Anointed at first was a designation of the king as the executor of God's commands, having a mandate from the Holy Spirit.
The anointed one was also God's chosen one. This role of the anointed king is shown in Ps 45:8. In Psalm 2 v. 7 he is shown as the Son of God.
The converted Jews are called Messianic Jews after the Messiah. They are not called Christian Jews, but Messianic Jews specifically.
Unfortunately, Polish nomenclature refers to Catholicism from Christians, which does not separate true believers from Vatican satanists. Hence, the spirit of the Vatican is also in ecumenical Protestant churches.
I did some research on the meaning of the name Chrystian:
Christian means in Greek: "committed to Christ.".
https://miastodzieci.pl/imiona/chrystian/
How deep is this meaning. Christians are baptized people, but Catholics are also called such, that is, the heirs of people who burned so-called heretics at the stake. For example, for reading the Bible.
Dedicated to Christ means dedicated to the Messiah, the anointed person,
Elsewhere the name is described thus:
"The name has Greek-Latin roots. It is derived from the words Christus, Christos, meaning anointed one. Freely translated, it means a person belonging to Christ."
https://www.znaczenie-imion.net/c/christian-chrystian.html
If we accept the original nomenclature and not the hypocritical one, then people who are faithful to Jesus will call themselves Christian. One cannot be both devoted to Jesus and at the same time a Baptist-men, that is, a person defining his charter on the basis of baptism.
The working name for a believer in Jesus would have to be Anointed, Anointed, Messianic. Therefore, it would be most truthful and aesthetically pleasing if we called ourselves Christians, that is, followers of the Messiah, his followers.
I think in this situation it is very important to use the term "Christian" to separate from the pseudo Protestantism that betrayed Jesus, if there was any betrayal at all, because there is simply a Jewish V column among evangelicals at the executive level (pastors, elders).
The name also has eschatological significance because according to the words of John's letter we have a definition, or rather information about the Antichrist:
And who is a liar if not the one who denies that Jesus is the Messiah? This very one is the Antichrist who does not recognize the Father and the Son.
1 John 2:22
The anointed one is only Jesus Christ and the antichrist is any spirit that does not acknowledge the Father and the Son.
In other words, anyone who does not recognize both the Father AND the Son is the antichrist, and in the end times will probably be the anointed man of men.
A liar denies that Jesus is the Savior. The liar may acknowledge some aspects of who Jesus is, but he does not accept the true message of Jesus as fully human and fully divine.
John goes on to define the kind of liar he has in mind: someone who denies that Jesus is the Christ, or the Messiah. The concept of a liar is mentioned four times in this letter (1 John 1:10, 2: 4, 4:20, 5:10)... After listing "antichrists" in verse 18, John adds that the antichrist denies the Father and the Son. One of the noted aspects of the antichrist or false teacher in this verse is that the false teacher denies the triune God. Many religious groups accept God the Father, Jesus, or the Holy Spirit, but not all three persons are the only Triune God. Any religion that accepts Jesus as something less than the eternal God, fully human and divine, is a false religion and fits the description of the false teachers called antichrists in this passage.
Truth matters.
And wouldn't it be better with the Israelites? 🙂 🙂
After all, Jesus Christ himself was an Israelite. And I don't mean a political Israel, or a genetic Israel, but I mean a term that refers to a group of people who have been following God and following His precepts for centuries (at this point except for circumcision and the sacrificial system of course) 😉 .
That would be a problem because Israel is associated by people with the one of today and no one gets into who it is today. Same problem as with Christianity. No one gets into who was baptized as an adult and who was baptized as an infant.
Disciples of Jesus Christ, disciples of the way of the Lord 🙂
I would like to post some verses, please pay attention to their content, Peter:
13 When Jesus came to the area of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples: "Who do people say the Son of Man is?" 14 And they answered: "Some for John the Baptist, others for Elijah, others for Jeremiah or for one of the prophets. "5 15 Jesus asked them: "And who do you say that I am?" 16 Simon Peter answered, "You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God." 17 At this Jesus said to him: "Blessed are you, Simon, son of Jonah; for flesh and blood6 has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven. Matthew 16 13-17
And:
1 Be imitators of me1, just as I am an imitator of Christ. 2 I commend you, brothers, for being mindful of me in everything, and for keeping the tradition as I have handed it on to you.2 3 I want you to know that the head3 of every man is Christ, and the man is the head of the woman, and the head of Christ3 is God. 1 Corinthians 11 1-3
And, the words of our Lord and Savior, the SON of God Jesus Christ:
28 One of the scribes who had been listening to them as they debated with one another also came near. Seeing that Jesus answered them well, he asked him: "Which is the first of all the commandments?" 29 Jesus answered: "The first is9: Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. 30 You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength. 31 The second is this: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. There is no other commandment greater than these. 32 The scribe said to Him: "Very well, Teacher, you have rightly said, for there is One and there is none other besides Him. 33 To love him with all your heart, with all your mind, and with all your strength, and to love your neighbor as yourself, is far more than all the burnt offerings and sacrifices. 34 Jesus seeing that he had reasonably answered, said to him: "You are not far from the kingdom of God. And no one dared to ask Him again. Mark 12 28-34
Do we see anywhere in these verses and the entire Bible anything about a , "triune God"?
Are we to listen to the interpretation or to the Words of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ in Mark's Gospel?
Greetings
the issue is simple. Jesus is God, he said of himself "I am" for which the Jews wanted to kill him noraz:
"And the Jews answered him, saying, We stone thee not for a good deed, but for blasphemy, and for that thou, being a man, makest thyself God." (J 10)
Acts says that the Spirit of Jesus guided them:
"And when they came toward Mysia, they wanted to go to Bithynia, but the Spirit of Jesus would not let them;" Acts
There is also baptism in the name of Jesus. If baptism were only in the name of the Father, this verse would be heresy...
" and let each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of your sins,"
and the body is the temple of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is one God is Spirit.
In the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Spirit.
You didn't give a verse, just your comment, let me share the verse where Jesus used the words, "I am"
60 Then the high priest stepped forward into the middle and asked Jesus: "Do you answer nothing for what they testify against you?" 61 But He remained silent and answered nothing. The high priest asked Him again, "Are You the Messiah, the Son of the Blessed One15?" 62 Jesus answered: "I am. You will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Almighty and coming with the clouds of heaven. "16.Ev.Mar.14 61-62
And I still don't see the word "triune" here, which incidentally comes from paganism and Catholicism.
I have already completed, because I am commenting on another text.
Nor does the Bible say that smoking pot is prohibited.
John 8.24 I told you that you would die in your sins. Yes, if you do not believe that I AM6, you will die in your sins
28 So Jesus said to them, "When you exalt the Son of Man, then you will know that I AM, and that I do not do anything of myself, but that I speak what the Father has taught me.
56 Abraham your father rejoiced because he saw my day - he saw it and rejoiced. "11 57 Then the Jews said to him, "Fifty years have you not yet seen Abraham? 58 Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM. "12 59 So they picked up stones to throw at Him.
Is it enough? Jesus has many more attributes of God in the Bible that they wanted to kill him for. The forgiveness of sins, salvation, knew the thoughts of the Pharisees, the Samaritan woman's chystories at the well, etc. Mary I will not look up verses for you anymore, look them up yourself. Scripture explains scripture. Read and draw your own conclusions. Jesus' words in John
10.29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all.5 And no one can snatch them out of my Father's hand. And no one can snatch them out of my Father's hand. 30 I and the Father are one
The triune one does not come from paganism , or Catholicism . This concept has been known for a long time in Judaism . Propane-Butane is 1 gas , when lit it gives 2 light and 3 heat(temperature) you can warm or cook yourself . 3 in one . Shalom for every house faithful to God !
There is a simpler way of showing the triune God.
steam/water/ice
Spirit/Jesus water of life/rock Father
Your words:, "Neither does the Bible say that smoking pot is prohibited."
They open up a huge door to any kind of interpretation.
I just wanted to show you that if you don't say something, it doesn't mean you can do it. I thought you understood the message. In the case of smoking pot, it is clear from scripture that it is forbidden to smoke pot, even though there is no mention of it. If you don't understand such simple things, let alone more complex ones. Do you want God to specifically give you a definition of the triune God or a prohibition against smoking pot?
Scripture interprets Scripture.
If, Jesus Christ said:
,,Jesus answered: "The first is9: Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one."
Why didn't he say, "The Lord our God, the Lord is triune"?
Then let me listen to the word of my Lord and Savior.
The rest of your text, I will not comment.
you want to penetrate God.
If you do not comment on the rest, because you have no more arguments, then I kindly ask you to be consistent and in such an important matter consider me a heretic and shake the ashes off my feet and do not look here anymore. This would be the biblical thing to do, since one of us is wrong about such a serious matter. I want nothing to do with people who don't recognize Jesus as God. They stick to me, not I to them.
We must be honest with ourselves first of all. If we are not honest with ourselves, we will not be honest with God.
If you do not recognize Jesus as God , then I recognize you as a heretic.
The notion that "Our Lord God is triune" is not foreign to Jewish thought and teaching, there were several videos on YouTube of Jewish rabbis explaining it in detail, the channel was called christianity.pl unfortunately the channel is closed, and I think Daniel Gruber wrote about it in his book Copernicus and the Jews.
Then you can shake hands with the Catholics.
And by the way, every day I want to get to know God.
In the Middle Ages, Catholics also regarded many believers as heretics....
Greetings to you and I generally enjoy your blog, but I did not expect such a response from you.
I rather thought you'd at least think about it a little bit.
Mario in that case if you reject Jesus as God you are on that sana list:
Let's take a look at who the well-known anthranitarians are. They include the following religious streams:
Arians. An example of their assumptions "The position of a woman in the Polish Brethren circles was incomparably stronger than that of other Protestant and Catholic women. The public was shocked and astonished by the fact that in Arian churches, women often preached sermons and moral teachings. One of the basic tenets of Arianism was partnership in marriage - neither wife nor husband could dominate."
Judaism
Christadelphians - Brothers in Christ
Socynians. From the founder of the Socyn movement. Main tenets:
In his works, Socyn argued, contrary to church tradition, that original sin does not currently existbecause he charged only Adam. He therefore considered that baptism was a secondary matter and could be accepted or not. Man has free will, and therefore God does not have foreknowledge, that is, He does not know future human deeds.
Bible Students
Free Bible Students
Unitarians
Polish Brothers
Unity of the Czech Brethren - Czech Brethren
Saturday Day Christians
Epiphanies. After the death of C. T. Russell, founder of the Watchtower ( Jehovah's Witnesses) on October 31, 1916, the general meeting of shareholders of the Watchtower Society held on January 6, 1917, appointed Joseph F. Rutherford as its second president. This choice did not meet with the approval of all board members. However, on January 5, 1918, an election of the Watchtower Society board of directors was held at the annual general meeting, at which J.F. Rutherford's authority over the Society was confirmed. On the evening of the same day a group of disgruntled activists met for an informal gathering in one of the saloons of the Fort Pitt Hotel in Pittsburgh. This meeting also extended into the following day.
Pentecostals of the Oneness of the Godhead
Jehovah's Witnesses
This blog is not for everyone, that everyone will get something out of it. Either I idea with the truth or I am wrong about important things. If I am wrong, don't read it. If you think that I have the guidance of God's Spirit and this blog is making a lot of things clear to you THEN REFLECT YOUR ERROR.
EITHER I'M SAYING SOMETHING TO YOU AND AT THIS TIME TREAT ME AS AN OLD GOD OR YOU'RE TEACHING ME ON THIS BLOG, and then I should apologize to you and conform to your beliefs
As far as I know we brethren are not to quarrel and make great inquiries about unnecessary matters, for this we know who is in Jesus. Greetings Peter. Praise Jesus. Sometimes it's not worth spending precious time discussing we are to preach the gospel and not to create. If we stumble, the Holy Spirit will guide us. I respect your great work in spreading the truth. Amen
Those who are in Christ understand each other perfectly and have no problem understanding because the Holy Spirit guides them.
Kris, I'm just simplifying and systematizing the truth, and Christ-followers are already divided. Just count the Protestant denominations. There are supposedly several hundred....
At a meeting of senior ADS pastors, one argument was presented to which your Lordships were unable to respond. Perhaps here you can get out of the question. Namely, if one accepts that the Holy Spirit is a person, then did Mary on the day of her conception sin and give birth to a Son to the Spirit and not to the Father? Thank you.
The phrase 'break out' indicates a desire to argue.
I have the answer but thank you change the blog. If you are consistent of course and not hypocritical.
I am from ADS. The question was asked by the wife of one of the pastors, but neither of them answered. They took air in their mouths and ignored the woman. I am looking for the answer.
Ok I will answer this once. The Bible says that God is Spirit, so the Father as Spirit gave birth to the Son.
Thank you so much for the clarification...